RE: Comics! #24 [X-Babies #3 Director's Commentary]

X-Babies #3 Skottie Young cover  X-Babies #3 Jacob Chabot cover

We've had a great 2009 talking comics with all of you in 24 columns over 31 weeks! And we were together for 3 of the 7 skip weeks at HeroesCon, San Diego Comic Con, and G-Man's Greensboro Cape Crisis! Not too shabby, if I do say so myself.

Gregg and I are rounding out the first calender year of RE: Comics! with our longest director's commentary yet, this time for X-Babies #3!

me:Maybe it was the turkey induced haze, maybe it was the whirlwind of travel and signings, but we're back in what seems like a flash for the commentary on X-Babies #3!10:27 AM Gregg: It's more because X-Babies #2 was pushed back a week from it's original date, so there' was only a three week gap...factor that in with when we did the #2 "commentary" vs. this one...yeah, a flash indeed.10:28 AM But everyone can hang tight, because issue #4's not out for another few weeks still.  It got pushed back for a number of reasons beyond our control. me: Just scheduling at Marvel?10:30 AM Gregg: Mostly, yeah. The holidays make things funky with printers, etc, etc. Maybe some of it is some lead time being eaten up, but overall we didn't expect the date shift. me: Since we talked right before issue #1's release, you've said that issue #3 was going to be the can't miss installment of the series.10:31 AM Gregg: This issue's my favorite of the bunch. The most stuff happens, a lot of set-up gets paid off, and to my biased mind, the last five pages are super-awesome.10:32 AM me: Before we get to those we've got 17 more to get through! Starting with the recap! Kitty!10:33 AM Gregg: Oh yeah, you love Kitty...I can't believe I hadn't thought of that. Yes, Kitty's turn to tell us what's what (with Colossus' help).  Credit where credit's due: Jacob's responsible for all the inner-panel/drawing dialogue. I personally like the Alphabot's "Spelling" balloon.10:35 AM And astute readers will notice the page Colossus in working on in the last panel is strikingly similar to the next two pages. That was all part of the plan, gang.

X-Babies #3
 me: My favorite is the "Da. Very good, Kitten." in the last panel
 Gregg: Oh, I also like "I am a alligator" if only for the improper grammar of it.
10:37 AM me: haha, but Gummy has teeth in that drawing
 Gregg: Well, that's because as of the last page of #2, the X-Babies didn't know that about Gummy just yet.
  Ah HA!
10:38 AM me: no No Prize for me =(
10:39 AM but when we get into the action, the X-Babies are at an dead end. Seriously, Royal Roy is blocking the bridge they're trying to cross.
 Gregg: Well, for what it's worth, to actually EARN a No-Prize, you have to not only find a mistake, but come up with a creative explanation. So, even if it WAS a mistake, just pointing it out does not merit a No-Prize, at least not by "classic" No-Prize rules.
10:40 AM me: Then we'll share that one.
10:41 AM Gregg: Yes. Royal Roy, looking all the world pretty bad. At least, until he very much isn't. It wasn't until I started writing this issue that I came upon the idea of his using money-pun-heavy dialogue, which tickled me to no end.
  But I always knew he'd be barely an obstacle, inspired by how meek the original Star Comics were...just so...meh.
10:42 AM me: One dose of SNIKT and they're high-tailing it to the further aggravation of Mr. Veech.
10:43 AM Gregg: Indeed. Plus, in a mere four panels we learn enough about Roy so that when the bigger reveals unveil themselves later, it's hopefully a cool thing to see.
 me: Absolutely
10:44 AM Gregg: But Veech has more ammunition. Namely: Top Dog.
 me: Your favorite of the Star Comics characters, if I'm not mistaken? A little best for last?
10:46 AM Gregg: He was my fave of the four, true. I suppose there's some of that. Though I actually had a more involved sequence in my head for this next chunk...but space became a problem. If anything, I wanted to do too much in this issue and had to find solutions to that.
10:47 AM This sequence in particular was helped by a long phone conversation with Jacob and Chris G.
 me: What was the original concept?
10:50 AM Gregg: The original concepts, actually. One was to have Top Dog lead them rather than the GPS and there'd be a page of them chasing him as he revealed nonsensical clues and kept yammering on. Another idea had him challenging the X-Babies to different skills (strength, speed, smarts, etc), so distract and scatter them. But an overall more active, action-y role. But with everything that was coming up, I didn't have the space (and that's in an issue where we actually got an extra story page (this one's got 23 pages of new content counting the original recap page).
10:51 AM But the essentials were for Top Dog to be super-skilled, computer-literate, and for him to lead them in some way on a wild goose chase in order to set Rogue off, etc, etc.
10:52 AM me: I like how it ended up just because it didn't require him intimidating them or attacking them in anyway. He made it out without a scratch, he trapped them. He was tops at messing with the X-Babies.
10:54 AM Gregg: Oh, and in the mindless details department: When he's pulling stuff out of his bag, in my head he says the word "Hockey" the way Tom Hanks says it in the movie BIG when they're talking about making a digital comics reading device (how prescient, right?). And the star on the back of the laptop was another beautiful additional detail by Jacob.
  But Top Dog is tops at everything, man!
10:56 AM Following Top Dog we get another scene change (Jacob was loving these...literally a new establishing shot every two pages...poor guy...I put him through the ringer; though I'd get my comeuppance later in this very issue).
10:57 AM And so, as X-Men have done in the past, the X-Babies go into the sewers...
10:58 AM me: And more dead ends. Big props to Emily Warren for these couple of pages
  The textures on the sewer pipes and in water is fantastic.
10:59 AM Gregg: Props to the whole team, totally. Though, I have to call you out on "more dead ends"...it's more locks...get it? More locks. Morlocks.
  Hilarious, right?
  Maybe not.
More Locks
 me: OH MAN!
11:00 AM I was expecting to see a little Callisto or Leech or someone in the tunnels, but I missed the pun!
11:02 AM Gregg: I was perhaps too clever for my own good. But that was part of the plan, to get people internally guessing what might be down there...especially with the X-Babies talking about alligators and dragoons and such (I wanted people to think maybe there'd be a Lockheed down there maybe)...only to find a sewer filled with "more locks".
  Too clever by a nose.

 me: Before the team has to split up, Rogue spots a camera boy and has some "words" for Mr. Veech!
11:05 AM Gregg: Rogue loses it, and boy oh boy, that was a fun rant to write. Straight-up hootin' and hollerin', with one of my favorite lines in the whole series, "Y'all 'r deader meat 'n a ham 'n egg biscuit!"
11:07 AM But considering everything they've been dealing with, can we blame her for gettin' ticked?
 me: Not at all, and can you blame Mr. Veech for getting scared and sending Spiral after them anew?
 Gregg: Especially since they didn't even get to fight the last two "threats"
11:08 AM I'd say he's less scared and more "hey, what's the deal, this is NOT how I want things to go".
  His very well constructed plan has slowly been picked away at and he, like the X-Babies, is getting more and more frustrated.
11:09 AM me: We get an idea that the general public is none that wiser though, and while his plans are slipping away, they're still being placated by the new X-Babies
11:11 AM Gregg: Well, they are pretty adorable.
11:12 AM me: Indeed, why a haircut?
11:14 AM Gregg: The haircut thing came from a Nick Jr. show I really loved that didn't last very long, OSWALD, about a very friendly blue octopus. In one episode, his penguin friend Henry refuses to get haircut. It's not for fear of pain, per se, but in general kids get freaked out about first haircuts and all, so I went with that.
11:16 AM The book version of that episode, titled "Henry's First Haircut", is likely still out there somewhere via Amazon or whatnot...mentioned only because I illustrated it. Boom, full circle!
  BOOM!
 Gregg: Wow, look at you facilitating sales on a book neither one of us will make a dime on. Ha ha.
Henry's First Haircut
11:18 AM But I suppose we should get back to X-Babies, where all of Wolverine's "I'll believe it when I see it" statements pay off when they all see it.
11:19 AM me: The dystopia of Mojoworld!
11:21 AM Gregg: In a nod to the advantages of collaboration: on this page, had I been drawing it myself, I in all likelihood would have never envisioned Mojoworld or that tower the way Jacob drew it...and for that I thank Jacob, because mine would have likely been much more a "standard" building with a bunch of junk atop it. Jacob took it to it's creatively logical level, especially with all the Mojo signage and such.
  Also, how awesome is the little Kitty coming through the wall in panel two of that page?
11:24 AM me: That is awesome. And now we kind of get into the real meat of the issue, which is amazing considering how much has already happened.
11:26 AM Gregg: Now, in terms of some "behind the scenes" business, at this point in the book, while Jacob was working on it, we learned that because of Thanksgiving and some loss of lead time, the deadline for this issue was...tight. Wicked tight. There was a proposal to bring in an inker to help Jacob out, which we didn't want. Instead, to help Jacob out, I pitched in and did some layouts. Six pages in the second half of the book. So from here on out we can play the "Which pages did Gregg lend a hand in, visually?" game, if you'd like. Or we can keep it a mystery.
11:28 AM me: If I had to wager right now, I would say the first page with Wally, the first one with Planet Terry, the first one with Royal Roy, the one with everyone knocked out, and the page with the X-Babies re-combining.
11:29 AM Gregg: Meanwhile, semi-funny story about page 11 (where they split into two teams). In panel 4, Wolverine's giving Rogue a playful punch. Beyond that being awesome because in my original script it was more an arm on the shoulder and Jacob correctly switched it, Jacob hates drawing the back of Wolverine's head. And I can see why; it's awkward. But after the page was inked and on it's way I asked, "dude, why didn't you just draw him punching her with his left arm?" at which point Jacob laughed at the oversight...and blamed it on the tight schedule and him not thinking clearly. Which is fair.
Wolverine's Head
11:31 AM You're right about four of your guesses. Wrong about one. And I was wrong...it was actually eight pages I worked on...so there are four more you've missed.
 me: Which ones did I get?
 Gregg: (the one you got wrong was the Royal Roy page)
11:33 AM I helped out on the pages from Wally's page through the second to last page, minus the Roy Page and the Wolverine Berserker Tantrum page...but maybe we're getting ahead of ourselves?
11:34 AM And I say helped out because in several cases Jacob tweaked what I'd done...moved some stuff around, and sometimes recomposed panels entirely...to better effect.
 me: Quite. Team A attacks Mr. Veech head on, but he's not alone.
11:35 AM Gregg: But either way, I got a taste of my own medicine when I had to actually lay out the complicated pages I'd so callously typed up descriptions for.
11:36 AM No he's not...and I wonder how many people knew who the "them" off panel were that the X-Babies are reacting too when the lay siege to Veech's tower. Did you know what was coming?
11:37 AM Also, on that same page, top panel, we get our first glimpse at the REAL Star Comics characters.
 me: I had a feeling.
11:38 AM You paced it so well though, delaying the reveal. Excellent job of righting for the issue vs. writing for the collection.
11:39 AM Gregg: Thanks, man. I appreciate that. This sequence, the cutting back and forth between "Attack" and "Rescue", I'm very pleased with. I really wanted things to feel like everything was going on at once...so that when things converge it makes sense that way.
11:40 AM But beyond that, there's a LOT being thrown at the readers and the characters over the next run of pages...new reveals, essentially new characters and status quos...chock-a-block!
 me: We really get to see Jacob work with the designs that we're part of the original X-Babies press release.
11:41 AM Gregg: Yes! Designs that I was originally upset were revealed until I read some comments where it was clear people did not understand what those designs meant, at which point I thought, okay, maybe readers won't see the reveal coming after all.
11:42 AM me: When you guys were down here in October and so many people were asking Jacob (and you) for X-Babies style [insert X-Man], I was afraid that people would associate you guys with this book forever and that style of drawing.
11:43 AM Gregg: And the designs are awesome and Jacob and I spent way too much time talking about these four characters and their "new continuities" than we probably should have considering how much we actually show/use them in those contexts.
 me: Whereas I was a big fan of Jacob's from strips like Space Chick and Space Chicken where I really dug his more proportionate characters, too. So it's good to see him mixing it up. And his designs were fantastic.
11:44 AM Gregg: Ha ha, I was just telling Jacob yesterday that with the end of issue #3, he might suddenly get besieged by people wanting ADORABLE versions of everyone. So yeah, Jacob's got mad versatility.
  For better or worse.
11:46 AM Gregg: On the Wally page, the reference to "Gorg" is a reference to the old Wally the Wizard series, where Wally had a time-travelling demon friend/deu ex machina named Gorg.
11:49 AM me: The X-Babies are ready to go full-time into their doppelgangers, and then we get another delayed reveal of what the cute impostors are really made of.
11:51 AM Gregg: Another delayed reveal, yeah, though there's a hint of it when Adorable Cyclops (and for ease of reference, we tend use Adorables/Adorable as the distinction) gets hit and lets out a "squeek" at the bottom of page 14.
Sounds
  Before than we get Terry up against some hawk-like aliens based on a background alien from PLANET TERRY #8.
  Look it up if you're super-bored.
11:53 AM But yes, the Adorables are not so easily beaten as they're more cartoon than anything else...which was a big part of the original Spider-Ham mini-series Jacob and I pitched. I liked the idea too much to let it go to waste, so here it is. Granted, it means that Spider-Ham idea's never gonna happen, but it wasn't likely to happen anyway, so we move on!
11:55 AM me: Royal Roy is my favorite "story in progress."
11:58 AM Gregg: Royal Roy is certainly the biggest departure from the original concept. As we were working up the designs it struck me that they were all very white and mostly red haired (even Top Dog)...and since Royal Roy was the blankest slate he was the one that got the biggest revamp. The more we thought about it the cooler his new status quo got. On the lip side, after the fact I thought it might be cool to make Planet Terry into Planet Teri and make him a girl in "real life"...but (a) it was after the fact and maybe going too far in a Veechian direction trying to placate all sides, etc.
11:59 AM But Delroy Al-Kashir's a pretty intense dude. Especially compared to the rest of 'em.
12:01 PM me: Absolutely.
12:02 PM I don't want to spoil anything, but there was an original Top Dog design that was almost War Machine-like.
12:03 PM Did that hit the cutting room floor?
 Gregg: There was.
  And no. No it didn't.
 me: That's that then.
 Gregg: Heh heh.
12:04 PM me: Then Wolverine, Nightcrawler, and their new band of liberated heroes join the throes of battle, where the rest of the X-Babies aren't doing so hot.

12:06 PM And here's where the last five pages start. Despite my involvement in it, I really like page 19, where we open on the defeated X-Babies and the "Attack?" caption. The tension mounts until yeah, the rescue team shows up, all kinds of liberated characters in tow...some of which might seem even a bit familiar.
12:09 PM In their big entrance, if you look carefully, you'll see pastiches of Cookie Monster, The Little Rascals, Br'er Rabbit, Speedy Gonzalez...Pee-Wee Herman (in the big shoe at the top of the page)...the dragon was originally intended as a Barney-esque riff (like the cool thing Barney was "based on"), and a Mini-Marvels Hawkeye drawn by none other than Chris Giarrusso himself.
12:11 PM me: Chris had mentioned of Facebook that Hawkeye had a cameo and I went back to look for it.
12:12 PM Gregg: Meanwhile, in the original script, Wolverine goes off just by virtue of his teammates getting beat/not winning. Jacob made the very valid point that something else should happen to REALLY set him off into his berserker tantrum. We went back and forth a bit and finally landed on the three panels of dialogue which leads us into another of the coolest pages in the book...maybe the coolest page, actually.
Berserker
12:13 PM me: I think that's the one that will really stick with people. That or the last page of this issue.
12:14 PM We talked in our commentary for issue #2 that Wolverine hadn't really used his claws on anyone despite taking some big swings.
12:15 PM Gregg: That panel is almost exactly as I imagined it when I wrote it up in the script (though I didn't imagine gutters between the background grid panels). Jacob NAILED it in every conceivable way. It was also his idea to have the Wolverine panels be colored in solid red. A perfect call.
  Yeah, I don't remember what my response was to that specifically, but I know in my head I was thinking, oh boy...wait 'til you see this page...
12:16 PM me: It's been a long time since we saw a berserker rage in any comic at that
12:18 PM Gregg: Brian Smith, co-writer of "Stuff of Legend" and artist of the "Loud Boy" books, and I have talked about that quite a bit, how Wolverine was always fighting the monster inside and how that THREAT of the berserker rage was something to build tension with and create anticipation and a sense of danger. These days he seems far more comfortable going to town on folks.
  Though I did like the "Enemy of the State" story...though in that case he clearly wasn't in control, etc, etc.
12:19 PM me: Exactly.
  But they can't keep them down, building to that amazing final page!
12:20 PM Yep, the last page...the BIG reveal...
12:21 PM Though, in the last panel of page 22, some more trivia: check out Alf, Pee Wee, and Mr. Magoo flanking that group scene (behind the word balloon was a take on Invader Zim, should anyone be curious.
12:23 PM me: I would have loved to see Zim!
12:24 PM Gregg: I'll send you a copy of that panel, unlettered.
 me: Thanks!
12:25 PM In my mental listing of everyone on the last page, I knew everybody except for the dude with the bandana, whose had turned into a gun or was a gun. But I did have his action figure.
12:26 PM Gregg: That's Random. He appeared in X-Factor back when Joe Quesada was on the book with Peter David writing.
12:27 PM For color purposes, we actually have lists of who everyone is. There are 47 X-characters on this page alone.
  You even recognized Dr. Ceclia Reyes in the back?
 me: Did you pick them?
12:28 PM (she's behind Longshot, right?)
12:29 PM Gregg: Not specifically, no. I'd have to check the script, but I think I just said " a whole mess of adorables from the well-known to the obscure or ridiculous" or something to that effect. Jacob and I definitely talked about characters and who'd be fun/funny to throw in there.
  (yeah)
12:30 PM His interpretations of Juggernaut and Jubilee I think are my faves on this page.
 me: I like Emma and Beak a lot
 Gregg: But they're all so great. Even his decision to have Dazzler in her original costume...or Gambit with the shape cards.
12:31 PM The expression on Emma's face is golden. Maggot giggling with his maggots. Ice Man's flat-ish head.
12:32 PM It's super-fun/funny/cute while at the same time, in context of the story, way creepy and intense.
 me: Madrox playing paper, rock, scissors with himself.
12:35 PM Gregg: I'm not gonna lie to you, I was hoping that this issue...and the berserker page and this last page, would be the game-changers...get people talking about this li'l mini-series as something more than what people have expected/written it off as. That still hasn't yet happened...but even so, I'm really pleased with this issue. And when you factor in that Jacob, in a week and a half or so, pencilled and inked the last half of the book...with everything that happens in the last half of the book...that dude deserves a double-raise or something.
  Because not for nothing, the next issue picks up from here and just. keeps. going!
12:37 PM me: That's what I like to hear!
  And I think this one will keep people on the edge of their seats for a hot minute.
 Gregg: Well, it keeps going for 22 pages.
12:38 PM I hope you're right.
12:40 PM But everyone's gonna have to wait until January 27th for the pulse-pounding, thrilling conclusion in the mighty Marvel manner! (no one hypes books up like that anymore, do they?)
X-Babies #4
X-Babies #4
On Sale January 27th!

Gregg Schigiel is a cartoonist, illustrator, and writer. He's worked as a penciller and editor for Marvel Comics and an illustrator and cartoonist at Nickelodeon in addition to creating his own characters and books. He's currently writing X-Babies for Marvel with artist Jacob Chabot and writing and drawing Pix: Teenage American Fairy and Safari Junior High, appearing in the back of the G-Man: Cape Crisis mini series from Image. Check out his website at Hatter Entertainment.com.

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