RE: Comics! #22 [X-Babies #2 Director's Commentary]

X-Babies #2
There's no better way to spend my Friday afternoons around the store than chatting with Gregg. Last Friday he dished the dirt on more easter eggs, inside scoops, and edits on X-Babies #2!
I'm super pressed for time today setting things up around the store for the Sitdown with the MOB signing this weekend, but I'll be sure to come back and add more specific pictures later on!
First, the 1st ever RE: Comics! EXTRA! Remember last week when Gregg and I were talking about his pitch for a Spice Girls/Deadpool crossover? Well, HE FOUND THE ART! Feast your eyes, Merc with a Mouth and Girl Power fans everywhere!
If you want to read even more about it, head on over to Hatter Entertainment.com. For now, we're getting into some X-Babies!
I was gonna start out with a little, "When we last left our heroes...," but you take care of all that on the first page.
12:09 PM Gregg: Yeah, when I first started working on this issue I was told a recap page HAD to be in the issue. I asked if we could create an original recap page and once given the go-ahead, we were off to the races.
12:10 PM me: What's your general take on the inclusion of recap pages in pretty much every Marvel book? Do you read any that you really enjoy?
12:12 PM Gregg: I still cling to the idea that you can bring a reader up to speed in the course of the comic itself, so I actually don't usually read the recap pages. For the most part I want to see how well the story pages themselves hold up without any assistance.
  That said, I did read an issue of HERCULES that had a fun recap page (the Thorcules/Herculor fight issue). And I thought they tried some clever stuff with the recap pages in the HELLCAT mini.
12:14 PM me: Do you know if Marvel counts the re-cap page as a "story" page when doing their solicitations or whatnot? And yeah, all of Jeff Parker's pages are great in Hercules and Agents. Peter David had a hilarious bit on X-Factor where he was using it as his personal soapbox, talking about WHATEVER he wanted, including what he got for Christmas last year or what he'd just eaten.
12:15 PM Gregg: Typically no, the recap pages doesn't count as a story page. So for this issue, because we generated an "original" recap page, you'll notice there are only 21 pages of X-Babies that follow.
12:16 PM Usually the recap pages are generated in-house by the editorial team. Which was the case when Marvel did those recap gatefolds back in the late '90s as well.
 me: Gotcha. More Cyclops/Wolvie fighting. Love it!
12:18 PM Gregg: Thanks. Clearly that's a dynamic I enjoy playing with. In fact this issue has quite a bit of infighting between X-Babies. But it was also a way to do the recap thing without it being too static. And maybe a little funny. I think. I hope.
12:19 PM But then we get to the opening spread and the start of the story, where I still insist on doing some recapping in the dialogue.
  And the roll-call, which is a thing I always liked as a kid in Justice League or Avengers comics.
12:21 PM me: Now I don't specifically remember from Planet Terry the characters enjoying musical extravaganzas, so I guess we're seeing more tampering going on. (I always liked that, knowing exactly which characters you're getting as soon as you open the book)
12:22 PM Gregg: Planet Terry characters were not prone to singing, dancing, and/or rapping, in their original incarnation, that is true.
  How do you mean, tampering?
12:25 PM On the one hand there's us as the creative team taking the original Planet Terry characters and presenting them in this new way.
12:26 PM On the other hand there's an internal story going on where there's a guy presenting new programming on Mojoworld. Though, at this point in the story we and the X-Babies are technically on an alien planet.
12:27 PM In either case, yes, Planet Terry has been tampered with.
 me: Sorry, a lot happening right now, checking someone out, referring to X-Babies #1, buying Polish dogs from a local baker hahaha. But yeah, I meant within the contexts of the story with the new programming being presented.
12:29 PM So Planet Terry is breaking off some beats...is that a hint at you yourself being quite the MC?
12:30 PM Gregg: Then yes. Though again, we don't find that out specifically for a few pages still. Though one could make that assumption coming off of #1. So what are you looking up in that issue, by the way?
 me: I was looking up Mr. Veech's name as it slipped my mind in the whirlwind of the moment.
12:31 PM Gregg: Actually, I very much dislike when characters rhyme in their speech in comics. I find it super distracting and annoying. Especially something like Etrigan the Demon. I love silly stuff in comics, bit that one doesn't sit right with me. So by making Terry sing and rap and rhyme I'm just amping up his cloying, annoying factor.
12:32 PM me: haha
12:33 PM Gregg: And there's also the idea that Mr. Veech has a very different POV on what's "entertainment" or what entertainment SHOULD be. We saw a hint of it with the Adorable X-Babies in issue 1 and now we're seeing the bigger picture.
12:35 PM me: As we talked about in the first issue, I'm right there with you on that theme as it's prevalent right now with Marvel Super Hero Squad, etc.
12:36 PM Then half the gang gets popped by Terry's "fun-gun" and can't stop movin' and shakin'
12:37 PM Gregg: And that's what was so appealing to me about using the Star characters for this story...because 25 years ago they were similarly constructed to appeal to "young readers".
12:39 PM Absolutely. Credit on that to a degree goes to an editorial note. Originally I had it where some X-Babies just get into it and some don't. But it was suggested there be some kind of impetus to make them dance against their will and that maybe it just didn't affect some of them. And therein came the Fun-Gun.
12:40 PM me: And Rogue's unspoken plan is great.
 Gregg: Thanks. Of course all that dancing, friendship and fun doesn't quite jive with the X-Babies' M.O., so it's only a matter of time before fists and claws start flying.
12:41 PM I'd be lying if I said I didn't love that they have no REAL motivation for kicking but outside of "that's how they roll".
 me: Adam's favorite part is always when Wolverine says "SNIKT" as his claws make the sound.
12:42 PM Gregg: People love that. Again, credit there goes to Jacob. That was his idea. Although technically, motivationally speaking, Rogue's dialogue in panel 5 of page 7 kind of brings readers up to speed on why they're so hot to fight.
12:44 PM me: Was there any concern with Wolverine going berserker into a pack of somewhat harmless aliens, what with the claws and all? A knock on the head from Rogue probably doesn't have the same lasting effect as losing a hand.
12:46 PM Gregg: Well first, I'd suggest that this isn't Wolverine going berserker...trust me on that one. And otherwise, the understanding in context is that these are (a) aliens and (b) aren't "real". Plus, no one really loses a hand or any limbs...there's no blood. Were the Comics Code still a thing, this would pass muster.
12:47 PM In fact, looking at it, he only uses his claws for ONE slash, so...it's not SO bad.
12:48 PM me: I was just thinking more like on page 8 (looking ahead a little) where he's full on swiping at a guy. That's where the thought came from.
12:49 PM And in theory looking to save his own skin (and dignity in not wanting to dance and sing), Wolverine suggests Cyclops to blast the fun-gun to bits
12:50 PM Gregg: Right.
  And then we see that Planet Terry and his alien friends are under the control of Mr. Veech, who keeps a watchful eye on all of the proceedings.
12:51 PM me: Mr. Veech flips the switch and more FIGHTING!
12:53 PM Gregg: Darn tootin'. Matter of fact, if this issue has a flaw it's maybe TOO MUCH fighting and maybe not enough time or energy given to the bigger story and motivations for characters. I actually was lucky enough to be able to go back in, as it was being lettered and adding dialogue to help flesh stuff out. The Veech dialogue as he flips the switch, that was a later addition.
  And yes, that IS a reference to the old G.I. Joe PSAs.
12:54 PM But more fighting and more of Jacob kickin' all kinds of butt drawing every freakin' alien and all kinds of awesome choreography. That big panel with the aliens attacking...the bit with Nightcrawler bamfing out of the way of that one alien's punch as it connects with another...I love that.
12:55 PM And Rogue pulling on that dude's eye stalks.
  But even in the physical fighting, the X-Babies start to go at each other, too...not just Cyclops and Wolverine this time.
12:56 PM me: Yeah, lots of bickering on the way to the ship.
12:57 PM You said in the first commentary that we'd see Kitty's relationship with machines coming into play again and here we have it.
 Gregg: And even more once they're on that ship, which, for those of you who care about these things, IS the same ship from PLANET TERRY #1, check the black-up reprint for proof.
  Yeah, she's got a knack for jogging mechanical stuff. She's like Fonzie that way.
12:58 PM (hoping you know who Fonzie is)
 me: COME ON!
  haha
12:59 PM Gregg: And then they finally take off, Veech returns Terry and friends to their "regularly scheduled programming" and things, again, get dicey for the X-Babies.
1:00 PM And tensions rise. Even Kitty gets fired up at Colossus!
1:01 PM me: But what we're really seeing is that they've come to the end of Terry's "set" and are about to break on through to the other side.
1:02 PM Gregg: Yep. It was all a soundstage and another one of Veech's new shows...which we knew, but it's news to the X-Babies, who again, crash through and into stuff.
1:04 PM me: Not too long before they meet their next Star Comics adversary
 Gregg: Indeed. We get a quick one-panel reboot before we meet Wally and the Wizard.
1:05 PM Who I had way too much fun writing Wally's dialogue. He's just so enthusiastic about the science of magic and the magic of science.
 me: I'm seein' some Peabody and Sherman dynamics here.
1:06 PM Gregg: Peabody and Sherman, yes. Mr. Wizard is in there too. But amped up to, again, a potentially obnoxious degree.
 me: hehe, Mr. Wizard.
1:07 PM Terribly inferior to Billy Nye the Science Guy.
 Gregg: And for those keeping score: Marlin's line about having his pick of any apprentice in the kingdom is a nod to the original comics, where Marlin said that at least once per issue in exasperation over Wally's actions.
  Whoa, whoa...hold it, young buck...now you're declaring generational war with this Bill Nye smack-talk.
1:09 PM me: Don't even make me bring in the Beakman's World wild card!
1:10 PM Gregg: Alright, let's not fight. Let's just agree that there have bee science shows on TV geared towards kids and move on. Because after all, your favorite thing's just around the bend.
 me: YAY!
 Gregg: After Wolverine and his hilariously large noggin give the Wizard some sass.
1:11 PM And then I, despite my claims otherwise, once again have characters speak in rhyme (though, to be fair, it's a magic spell and those often have to rhyme for the magic to be effective).
 me: It's such a good slow build too, starting with the letters trickling out of his hat and then the whole page of seemingly nothing happening.
1:13 PM Gregg: Thanks. I'm glad you feel that way. You can't help but worry about having a page of just talking (and again, credit to Jacob for giving them life and personality, as it could have easily been a straight talking-heads page), but you gotta slow things down every now and again so when the big stuff hits, it HITS.
  And we get to see Wolverine with a cigar-like piece of grass in his mouth. And all kinds of apologies and sweetness, too.
1:14 PM And then...
1:15 PM me: ALPHABOT!!!!!!!!!!!
1:17 PM You showed me the black and white preview in your hotel room while you were here in October and I was first shocked at the detail and creativeness in the concept and then busted out laughing when I saw the LOV and HAT knuckles!
1:19 PM Gregg: The knuckles are awesome, but just the beginning. If you REALLY wanna get into it, throughout the fight Jacob has letters flying off it that spell stuff out. For example, when the "J" cannon comes out of its forearm, letters spell out "surprise"...impact points spell things...yeah, Jacob took it beyond even what I'd conceived. (which, by the way, I also had considered including some Num-Borgs as well, but in the end, the Alpha-Bot's better as the massive menace it is).
1:20 PM And it was nice to see the X-Babies actually work together as a cohesive team.
1:21 PM me: That's CRAZY! I didn't even see the extra words! And in the same scene we have my other favorite moment, the DODGEBALL SPECIAL!
1:24 PM Gregg: Oh man, that was another process...coming up with something that was a Fastball Special but not called a Fastball Special. Nick, our editor, thought it needed to be something beyond what we've all seen before. So...after considering many options I went with Dodgeball. Though, after the fact, Jacob suggested Lawn Dart Special might've been better since he's got the claws...but then we thought lawn darts is pretty much a recipe for injury, so I'm pleased with dodgeball.
 me: Then spelled out dialogue, I forgot the SPELLED OUT DIALOGUE
1:25 PM Gregg: Ha ha. Yeah. That was fun, too. It's almost a shame Alpha-Bot doesn't say more. But I think that'd get annoying having to read more than "Destroy" and "No More Games" spelled out.
1:26 PM me: Sadly, the Dodgeball Special proves too awesome for the awesomeness of Alpha-Bot and the X-Babies get a moment to catch their breath.
1:28 PM Gregg: Just a moment. And a moment for me to drop in a reference to a podcast I listen to in Wolverine's using the names "Chip Dipson and Dip Dopson".
1:29 PM But that moment is interrupted by the appearance of Royal Roy and his crew and out issue two cliffhanger, which, and this is on me, is very, very similar to the issue one cliffhanger.
1:30 PM I can only promise readers this: the issue three cliffhanger is a whole other level.
  And I don't make many promises.
1:32 PM me: That podcast being Jordan, Jesse, GO! from Maximum Fun.Org, which also puts out the Sound of Young America, a podcast that I listen to frequently.
 Gregg: Indeed. Did you recognize it when you read it or did I mention it?
1:33 PM The Sound of Young America is an excellent show, available as a podcast or on public radio through PRI.
1:34 PM me: I recognized it as familiar when I read it and it hit home when you posted a link to the mention you got on Maximum Fun.Org.
1:35 PM Gregg: Cool. Yeah, it's admittedly both a nod to the show and a "hey people who might not otherwise know about this comic, check it out!" move.
1:37 PM But yeah, that cliffhanger closes out issue two, which, I'm really glad you liked (and I hope other people liked, too). As I mentioned earlier, I think there are some flaws in the issue, things that maybe could have paced out differently overall in the series...and maybe not the greatest as a stand-alone issue. But I also might (a) be a bit hard on myself and (b) have looked over and re-read the issue so many times it can't help but feel light, especially considering what's coming in the next 2 issues, which are pretty packed with stuff.
1:40 PM me: I think you are your own worst critic. Personally I can't look at anything I write or draw ever again once I'm finish working on them. I loved it and hopefully everyone had a great time reading along with us or now can't wait to come by the store and pick up a copy for themselves!
1:41 PM As we mentioned last week, we'll be taking next week off while you head home and I wrangle Jen Grünwald, Bendis, Mack, Oeming, Taki Soma, and Bryan Glass.
1:42 PM Gregg: Aw, shucks. Though, to flip that, and to do some horn-tooting, the last five pages of issue three...totally wicked.
1:43 PM Yeah, I'm going to Miami to enjoy my Thanksgiving. Good luck wrangling that crew.
  But try to enjoy your Thanksgiving just the same.
 me: And Happy Thanksgiving to all, and to all a happy post-turkey nap.
1:44 PM Gregg: Well said, Stephen.
Gregg Schigiel is a cartoonist, illustrator, and writer. He's worked as a penciller and editor for Marvel Comics and an illustrator and cartoonist at Nickelodeon in addition to creating his own characters and books. He's currently writing X-Babies for Marvel with artist Jacob Chabot and writing and drawing Pix: Teenage American Fairy and Safari Junior High, appearing in the back of the G-Man: Cape Crisis mini series from Image. Check out his website at Hatter Entertainment.com.


Stephen Mayer
makes his mama proud making contact with 97 out of 100 pitches at the batting cages and measuring out the dimensions of his living room.